Comments on: Stalking, Courting or Pimping Condi?

By: ZK

ZK — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:14:23 +0000

Wow, lots of info.
But, you also need to include - her part in the South Ossetian/Georgian War during the summer of 2008

She delivered some really good instructions to the prez.Sakashvili just a week before the war started.

How does she have so much time on her hands. War here, war there, war - everywhere

By: Kenneth West

Kenneth West — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:50:46 +0000

Great article and some interesting discussion going on here. I’ll surely catch the film when it finally makes it to the street…also good to hear some of the insiders giving their take in an open forum like this. It’s all good. Hey Sebastian where can I get a screener? Peace.

By: section9

section9 — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:07:46 +0000

First,

My conclusion that you are a gay director came from outtakes watching a Fort Lauderdale Film Festival (iirc) interview in which you stated that you preferred to go out on a date with men. If I misinterpreted your interview with the individual who was interviewing you to conclude that you were in fact, gay (not that that is an indictment, by the way), then I deeply apologize. The error was entirely mine.

Secondly, you have produced a deeply unfair agenda film, have done so under false pretenses (your hero never intended to marry Dr. Rice, and you know this-Michael Moore has used this same technique). You interviewed mostly people, such as Larry Wilkerson and Ben Veniste, who were people who had an axe to grind with Dr. Rice (Scowcroft is an exception, and his issues were primarily with how the President structured the national security structure of his Administration) personally, having lost the debate over the Iraq War during Rice’s tenure at the NSC. We could relitigate history here, but I suspect that history will be far kinder to her than you have been. People who lose policy fights have a way of being vindictive as hell. They also have a way of championing the cause of the party out of power.

Which is now the party in power, by the way. I strongly suspect that the enthusiasm of independent filmmakers to investigate Team Obama will be, how shall we say, somewhat limited. Where you stand depends upon where you sit.

And please, don’t berate me for having not seen your film yet. I don’t have to have seen the Director’s Cut of Farenheit 9/11 to know that Michael Moore has an agenda against George Bush and the War on Terror.

All that said, Stanford’s film society should have shown your film. Free speech is free speech. Rice is a deeply private woman (who may, in fact, be gay herself). But that does not entitle her, or her friends, to use pressure to silence criticism. I may disagree with your agenda of vilifying the Secretary, but I agree with your right to do so. Stanford should have, as well. Oh, and I will see your film.

By: devin Ratray

devin Ratray — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:18:43 +0000

I too am fascinated! Not so much by web-reporters who give their lengthy opinions about films they have not seen (now THAT’S what I call responsible journalism); but by the fact that “section 9″ could tell that Mr. Doggart IS gay! Not by sexual preference, but because he is BRITISH! Well done, Section 9: You sniffed out another Foppish Limey! No hiding it, this time! As soon as we heard him pronounce “advertisement”, “ad-VERTIS-ment”, heard him call “Soccer”, “Futbol”, and call Football “A stupid game where only four or five Tossers touch the ball during the whole bloody match!” Ole’ Section 9 knew it was time to bust out the “GAY!” Label-tape. Kudos to you. And kudos to the diligent work ethics of who ever wrote this article. You’re so good, you don’t even HAVE to see the movie to know all about it! To know all about the twists and turns in it, how I was in it, to know even the deep, personal agenda’s Sebastian had to have to make a movie this subversive and unjust in the first place!
The fact is, neither of you two ya-hoo’s know a thing about Sebastian or the movie he’s made. Section 9, I can pretty much guarantee you’ve never slept with Sebastian. You don’t even know him. Why make claims about someone you know zero about? SmashGod, you’ve never seen the movie. Why are you even writing an article. Do you write about the food at restaurants you’ve never been to? And for your info: yes. A lot of people remember “Buzz” from Home Alone. Alot more people then will ever remember you. You would not have opened up your article with that question if you didn’t think people did remember. Of course, I was 13 years old, 5′11″ and 165 lbs. Not exactly what would be called “Lumpy”, by most people, but if your memory still needs to be jogged, Smashgod, I would be happy to “reprise (my) bullying ways” on your noggin in a locked room with no windows.

By: Sebastian

Sebastian — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:45:43 +0000

Fascinated to hear from ’section9′ that I am a “gay director”. Is this wishful thinking, sir, after seeing me naked on the beach in the trailer? Sadly, my sensual fantasies have mostly directed at Dr Rice over the last three years of making this film. As for being an agenda film, we feature numerous Republican colleagues in the film — from Brent Scowcroft to Lawrence Wilkerson — as well as personal friends of her. If either section9 or indeed the author of this whole piece would care to view the actual film, rather than make judgments on delightful speculation, pls feel free to send your mailing address to shockedandawed@aol.com

By: section9

section9 — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:43:19 +0000

There’s a whole subtext of impossibility to this enterprise because of the fact that Condi is gay. Doggart knows this, which adds the acid touch to his enterprise (Doggart is a gay director).

Doggart, however, interviews everyone who could ever had had a grudge against Rice, from Richard Ben Veniste, who she publicly embarrassed, to antiwar people. This was an agenda film, as most of the stuff produced about her has been, sad to say.

Still and all, there is no excuse for Stanford to give in to Condi’s buds on the Board because the film was embarrassing to her.